Nye LP-program/regler

[Teserere]

Det er mye hvisking og tisking i gangene. KG har sendt inn oversatt program til NKK og vi venter på vedtak om alle eller bare klasse 3 skal vedtas i Norge. Finnland har vedtatt og begynner med nye programmer i august 2015. Ut ifra ryktene jeg hører kommer klasse 3 til å tre i kraft i Norge januar 2016, og dersom klasse 1-2 blir vedtatt kommer disse fra 2017.

Et annet rykte sier at dersom en hund ødelegger for en annen hun under fellesdekk blir denne utvist første gang 3 mnd, andre gang 6 mnd fra konkurranser.

Her kan dere se hva som blir nytt. OBS! Ingenting er vedtatt i NKK enda!

Jeg gleder meg til å trene på litt nye ting!

RULES AND GUIDELINES FOR

OBEDIENCE TRAILS for CLASSES 1 & 2 & 3

The rules and guidelines have been dealt with at the FCI Obedience Commission meetings in

Helsinki 2013 and Brussels 2014.

The rules and guidelines of classes 1&2 have been combined with those of class 3. The changes

are summed up in this document.

The exercises of class 3 are those of an international obedience trial as well, and will be

effective from 1.1.2016. These will be applied in SW and WW obedience competitions from year

2016. The other specifics of an international competition will be dealt with by the Commission in

May 2015.

The classes 1 & 2 can be applied by the nations that choose to do so according to their own

timetables, that suite them.

The guidelines for arranging a SW and WW competition in obedience will be dealt with in The

Obedience Commission meeting of May 2015. The WW competition is already separated from

the World Dog Show and it will be so also in the future.

The FCI Obedience Commission suggests that

 the first choice is to arrange the annual World Championship Competition in

Obedience in the same country where the World Dog Show is held, but not

necessarily at the same time and in the same place.

 if the WDS is held on another continent than Europe, the World

Championship in Obedience will be arranged by the country responsible for

arranging the European Dog Show

 if neither of the above alternatives can be executed, the FCI Obedience

Commission will suggest another place and date

 the date and place of the World Championship in Obedience should

preferably be released three years before the event; the precise date of the

competition should never be released later that two years before the event.FCI Obedience Commission Obedience classes 1 & 2 & 3

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Summing up of the changes in the obedience rules and guidelines

The rules and guidelines of classes 1 & 2 and class 3 have been come combined as one document and the

following changes have been made.

Class

1

Exercises Coeff

1 Old: Lying in a group for 2 minutes, handlers out of sight

New: Sitting in a group for 1 minute, handlers in sight

3

2 Heelwork: no changes 3

3 Stand under march

If the dog takes the wrong position, 5 points can be awarded if the exercise is perfect in all

other aspects.

3

4 Recall: no changes 3

5 Old: Sit under march

New: Sit or down under march

The handler has to inform the judge before the exercise starts if he will command the dog to

sit or lie down. If the dog takes the wrong position, 5 points can be awarded if the exercise

is perfect in all other aspects.

2

6 Send away into a square.

The handler has to tell the judge before the exercise starts if the dog will first stand and then

lie down or lie down directly. If the dog takes the wrong position in the square 3 points are

reduced and if the standing position is not clear 2 points are reduced.

3

7 Retrieve: no changes 4

8 Distance control. If the dog sits up before the handler returns, not more than 8 points

should be given. Extensive use of voice and exaggerated or continuous / long-lasting hand

signals drop points. (General rules)

A third command on a position may be given, but this position fails. The first time a second

command has to be given on a position 2 points are reduced. The next time a second

command on a position is given, 1 point is reduced.

3

9 Jumping over a hurdle: no changes 3

10 A new exercise was composed: Send away around a cone and return

Command: “Around” and hand signal

Performance: The handler stands with the dog in heel position at the

starting point facing a cone, approximately 15-20 cm high, at a distance of approximately 10

m. The handler is told to send his dog from the starting point towards a cone. The dog

should run around the cone and return to the handler and take the heel position.

Directions: Emphasis should be on the dog’s willingness to follow the commands, the

dog’s tempo and its taking the shortest way. If the dog turns before the cone, not more than

5 points can be awarded. The breed should be taken into consideration in judging the

speed. If a recall command is given, the highest score is 8. A second recall fails the

exercise.

2

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Class

2

Exercises Coeff.

1 Old: Sitting in a group for 1 minute, handlers in sight

New: Lying in a group for 2 minutes, handlers out of in sight

2

2 Heelwork: walking backward 2-5 meters (6 - 15 steps) is included 3

3 Old: Stand and sit under march

New: Stand, sit or down under march (2 positions)

Change: Walking schema as in class 3 (10m – 10m)

Before the competition the judge decides which positions should be performed and in which

order. The turning points (left/right) should be marked with small cones. Turning left or right

should be the same for all dogs of a competition.

3

4 Recall with stand: no changes 4

5 Send away with down and recall. The handler has to tell the judge before the exercise

starts if the dog will first stand and then lie down or lie down directly. If the dog takes the

wrong position in the square 3 points are reduced and if the standing position is not clear 2

points are reduced.

4

6 Directed retrieve

The stopping point is not indicated by a cone.

3

7 Scent and retrieve

Change: No longer 5 neutral articles, they will be laid out by the steward by hand.

4

8 Distance control: If the dog misses one position of the six, not more than 7 points should

be given and if it misses two positions not more than 5 points should be given. Thus if the

dog jumps over one position and takes the next position instead, not more than 5 points can

be awarded.

4

9 Old: Jumping over a hurdle and retrieving a metal or wooden object

New: Jumping over a hurdle and retrieving a metal object

3

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Class

3

Exercises Coeff

1 Old: Sitting in a group for 2 minutes handlers out of sight

New: Sitting in a group for 2 minutes handlers out of sight

2

2 Old: Lying in a group for 4 minutes handler out of sight

New: Lying in a group for 1 minute and recall

Commands: “Sit”, “Stay”, ”Down” and/or Hand signal , ”Come”

Performance: The exercises 1 and 2 are combined.

Part 1: Sitting in a group for 2 minutes

Part 2: Lying on a group for 1 minute and recall

The points are given for both parts separately after the end of the second part of the

exercise. The exercise starts when all handlers of the group stand in the row at

approximately 4 meters distance from each other with their dogs in heel position and the

steward announces “exercise starts”. The exercise ends (Part 1) when the handlers have

returned inside the ring, facing their dogs at a distance of not less than approximately 10

meters and the steward announces ”exercise over”.

The dogs are sitting in heel position in a row at approx. 4 meters distance from each other.

When told, the handlers leave the dogs and walk out of sight of the dogs and stay hidden

for 2 minutes. When 2 minutes have elapsed, the handlers are instructed to walk back into

the ring and take a standing position inside the ring. The handlers are then told to walk and

take a standing position approximately 10 meters from the dogs facing the dogs. Part 1 has

ended and part 2 begins.

The steward starts the second part of the exercise. The handlers are told to command the

dogs down one by one from left to right. They will be lying for 1 minute and then they will be

recalled one by one from right to left. A loud command may disturb the others and will

severely reduce points.

There should be four dogs in a group, not less than three. In case of only five entries in

class 3, all five can do the exercise together.

Directions: A dog that stands up or lies down during part 1 gets 0 points for part 1. A dog

that leaves its position (more than 2 body lengths) fails the whole exercise

(parts 1 and 2). Dogs, that are standing or lying after part 1 has ended, can be commanded

one by one to sitting position. No points will be lost for the first command to a sitting

position. If a second command is needed, 2 points will be reduced. Part 2 is failed if the dog

does not sit.

If a dog lies down before command (f. ex. on a neighbours command) not more than 8

points can be awarded for part 2. If a dog comes on another dog’s recall command, not

more than 5 points can be awarded for part 2. A dog coming without any command will fail

part 2. If the dog barks 1-2 times, 1-2 points are withdrawn; if it barks most of the time, the

exercise is failed (0 points). The dog is allowed to turn its head and look around, and it is

allowed to show interest if there is distraction or noise inside or outside the ring. This,

however, should not give an appearance of restlessness or anxiety. If a dog stands up and

goes close to another dog, so that there is fear for severe disturbance or a fight, the

exercise must be stopped and then resumed for all the dogs except for the dog that caused

the disturbance.

It is recommended that the area outside the ring in front of the dogs is a closed area (no

outsiders besides personnel are allowed) during this exercise. In the SW and WW

competitions this arrangement is obligatory.

2

3 Heelwork

Change: Walking backwards 5-10 meters (15-30 steps). Walking backwards can include

one turn.

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4 Stand, sit and down under march: No changes 3

5 Recall with stand and down: No changes 3

6 Send away with directions, down and recall

Change: The handler has to tell the judge before the exercise starts if the dog will first stand

and then lie down or lie down directly. If the dog takes the wrong position in the square 3

points are reduced and if the standing position is not clear 2 points are reduced.

No cone will be used in the center of the circle. A marker may be used. The circumference

of the circle should be tagged, f. ex 6-8 pieces of tape or a line in the sand, chalk lines, etc.

If the dog sits or lies down outside the circle or square the exercise is failed. No redirecting

command is allowed.

3

7 Directed retrieve: No changes 3

8 Old: Jumping a hurdle and retrieving a metal object

New: Directing to circle a cone, retrieve a wooden dumbbell and jump a hurdle

Commands: “Around“ , “Stand/Sit/down“ and/or hand signal – “right/left" "retrieve“ and/or

hand signal – “Jump“ – “Release“, (“Heel“)

"Description: Before the competition starts, the judge will determine, which position

(stand/sit/down) the dog should to take on its way back to the handler. The same position

for all competitors. The handler should draw the direction (right/left) from which the dog has

to retrieve the dumbbell and jump the hurdle. The handler will not be told the direction at

this stage.

An approximately 40 cm high, well visible cone is at a distance of approximately 20 metres

from the starting point. Two hurdles are situated approximately 5 meters from the starting

point and 5 metres from each other. See figures.

There should to be three different sizes of wooden dumbbells available, suitable for different

breeds. The weight of the largest should be max 450 g. The size of the dumbbells should be

in proportion of the size of the dog but the handler is free to choose the size.

Performance: The handler stands with the dog in heel position at the starting point. The

steward announces the start of the exercise and walks to place the dumbbells

approximately 5 meters behind the hurdles. On instruction, the handler sends the dog

forward around the cone. When the dog has passed around the cone at a distance of at

least approximately 2 metres back towards the handler, but not passed the imaginary line

connecting the dumbbells, the handler commands the dog into the position that was

determined by the judge. Voice and hand signals may be given for taking the required

position. After about 3 seconds, the handler is informed by the steward which the direction

was that was drawn and instructed to command his dog to retrieve the correct dumbbell and

jump the correct corresponding hurdle and return to heel position.

"Directions: Emphasis should be on the dog’s willingness to follow the commands, the

dog’s tempo and its taking the shortest ways. Showing the dog directions or touching the

dog at the starting point will lead to failing of the exercise (0).

It is important that the dog is happy and willing to obey the commands. The dog has to

show a good and consistent speed, at least a fast trot. Slow working is a failure. The breed

has to be taken into consideration when judging the speed.

The dog should immediately obey the commands. There is a tolerance for fast dogs, but not

for slow dogs.

To obtain points for this exercise, the dog must remain in its position (stand/sit/down) untill it

gets the command to go on with the exercise. A dog that takes the wrong position cannot

get more than 8 points.

If the dog turns back before the cone, it has to be redirected to the cone. This drops points.

The exercise is failed if the dog does not go around the cone. The handler has two directing

commands (-1 point for each additional command if the dog obeys). After the dog has gone

around the cone the dog should take the correct position on command.

The handler gets the information which dumbbell (right or left) when the dog has taken its

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position (stand/sit/down). The handler is allowed to give a jump command after the dog has

picked up the dumbbell. If the dog passes the connecting lines of the dumbbells the

exercise is failed (0) without having picked up the correct dumbbell, the exercise is failed.

If the dog goes to the wrong dumbbell, but is redirected to the correct one and the dog

brings the correct one, 6 points can be awarded.

The reduction of points for extra directing commands depends on their strength and the

dog’s willingness to obey the commands. It can be 1-2 points/command.

The reduction of points for other extra commands should be congruent with the general

directions.

If the dog jumps the hurdle on the way to the cone, the exercise is failed (0).

If the dog picks up the wrong dumbbell or jumps the wrong hurdle, the exercise is failed (0).

Dropping the dumbbell: general rules

Chewing or biting on the dumbbell: general rules

Figure for the recommended construction of the hurdles is in the appendix. One of the

hurdles should be open and the other should be an ordinary closed hurdle See figures.

9 Scent and retrieve

Change: The number of articles may vary from 6 to 8. The organizer should mark the

handler’s articles before the competition starts. The pattern for the articles is free. The

handler’s article, however, should not be placed at the edges. .

3

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APPENDIX: Figures on

performing the exercise

Class 1 Exercise 6. Send away into a square

Class 2. Exercise 6. Send away into a square with down and recall.FCI Obedience Commission Obedience classes 1 & 2 & 3

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APPENDIX: Figures on

performing the exercise

Class 3. Exercise 6. Send away with directions, lie down and recall. The cone in the circle will be

replaced by a small marker. It is an option to leave the marker out. Segments of the

circumference of the circle or the whole circumference should be marked. FCI Obedience Commission Obedience classes 1 & 2 & 3

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APPENDIX: Figures on

performing the exercise

Class 2. Exercise 7. Directed retrieve

Class 3. Exercise 7. Directed retrieveFCI Obedience Commission Obedience classes 1 & 2 & 3

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APPENDIX: Figures on

performing the exercise

Class 3. Exercise 8. Directing to circle a cone, retrieve a wooden dumbbell and jump a hurdle.FCI Obedience Commission Obedience classes 1 & 2 & 3

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APPENDIX: Figures on

equipment

Classes 1 & 2 & 3. The hurdle

Class 3. Exercise 8. The open hurdle.

Her er linken til programmet med figurer.

[Guest Jonna]

Spørs om ikke Talli 8 år (nesten 9 da) pensjoneres 2016. Egentlig litt trist.

Men får finne en annen gren for henne da

[Margrete]

Nesten så jeg lurer på om de var på julebord og klokken var nære veldig drita fulle, når de fant på de greiene. Gå baklengs med vending faktisk! Jaja, kan bli moro å se på da, om dette blir godkjent.

[Tabris]

Baklengs med vending har vi faktisk lært inn som en grunnferdighet!

[Zitka]

Nesten så jeg lurer på om de var på julebord og klokken var nære veldig drita fulle, når de fant på de greiene. Gå baklengs med vending faktisk! Jaja, kan bli moro å se på da, om dette blir godkjent.

Det blir problematisk for oss med hunder som mener de ikke har rompa

:lol:

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[Siri]

Nei, jeg står vel ved mitt.... LP frister fortsatt ikke .

[Tabris]

Blir spennende å se hva det blir til. Ruta allerede i klasse 1?

[Margrete]

Nei, jeg står vel ved mitt.... LP frister fortsatt ikke .

Helt enig! Dette blir jo bare mer og mer ett sirkusshow.

[Betty]

Jeg likte de nye reglene. Syns et par av de nye øvelsene ser morsomme ut, spesielt den med å dirigere rundt kjegle, apportere og så hinder.

Og hallo, kortere fellesøvelser!! Joda, innkallingen i klasse 3 kan jo bli interessant (men jeg tror nok de aller fleste har grei nok kontroll over hundene der, mulig jeg er naiv ).

[Malamuten]

Blir spennende å se hva det blir til. Ruta allerede i klasse 1?

Nye klasse en blir vell tilsvarende klasse to i dag, for det blir vell bare 3 klasser totalt viss jeg ikke har missforstått. Men det er det vell mange land som praktiserer i dag også, og det er vell bla derfor det er oppe til vurdering med en endring også her i Norge?

Jeg orket ikke lese alt, men jeg må si at jeg ikke er veldig imponert over det jeg leste, hva er vitsen om man selv får velge om hunden skal sitte, stå eller ligge feks? Synes ikke noe om at ting blir lettere hele tiden, det er en konkuranse, det er meningen at det skal være litt vanskelig, og det bør være likt for alle for å få mer rett bedømming på tvers av ekvipasjer. Viss man ser behov for lettere sporter så kan man heller lage en ny sport enn å ødelegge de som allerede finnes.

[Tabris]

Løpe rundt har vi også lært inn som triks, så det kan vi utvikle. Spennende dette!

[Margrete]

De har jo gjort ting litt vanskligere også: Rundering - apport - høyre/venstre hopp - utgangstilling

[Teserere]

Nye klasse en blir vell tilsvarende klasse to i dag, for det blir vell bare 3 klasser totalt viss jeg ikke har missforstått. Men det er det vell mange land som praktiserer i dag også, og det er vell bla derfor det er oppe til vurdering med en endring også her i Norge?

Jeg orket ikke lese alt, men jeg må si at jeg ikke er veldig imponert over det jeg leste, hva er vitsen om man selv får velge om hunden skal sitte, stå eller ligge feks? Synes ikke noe om at ting blir lettere hele tiden, det er en konkuranse, det er meningen at det skal være litt vanskelig, og det bør være likt for alle for å få mer rett bedømming på tvers av ekvipasjer. Viss man ser behov for lettere sporter så kan man heller lage en ny sport enn å ødelegge de som allerede finnes.

Det blir dommeren som velger om det er sitt stå eller dekk

[maysofie]

Mine finske venner nevnte at de trodde utestengelse bare var noe finnene hadde bestemt for seg selv??

Men altså, innkalling fra fellesdekk?

[Teserere]

Jeg syns fellesøvelsene blir mer spennende, de nåværende er kjedelige og langdryge. Det blir også mer publikumsvennlig. Hvis alle klasser vedtas er jeg spent på om det kommer en rekruttklasse i tillegg, siden dagens klasse 1 "utgår".

[Renate A]

Jeg syntes det er ok at det er gjort litt vanskeligere, det gjør det litt vanskeligere å fly igjennom klassene

Men...noen av momentene var litt...eh...teite...

Det jeg syntes er bra er at man blir straffet når hunden forstyrrer annen hund.

Jeg syntes det er så respektløst å starte med en hund som er potensiell ødelegger for andre hunder og skikkelig sjarmerende om den er i dårlig humør mot andre hunder itillegg.

Jeg hadde aldri startet med en slik hund før den var helt sikker på trening sammen frivillige treningskamerater (man er ikke akkurat frivillige om man får en sånn dri** bikkje ved siden av hunden sin og det momentet blir ødelagt og hunden itillegg får seg litt bank )

[Gjest]

Det blir dommeren som velger om det er sitt stå eller dekk

Det står jo at hundefører skal informere dommer om hvilket moment h'n velger før øvelsen starter?

[Margrete]

Så forresten ikke noen endringer i elite? Det må det jo komme, siden resten av klassene har mange forandringer.

[Guest Jonna]

Så forresten ikke noen endringer i elite? Det må det jo komme, siden resten av klassene har mange forandringer.

Elite heter nå OBI3 Det blir bare 3 klasser.

[Margrete]

Elite heter nå OBI3 Det blir bare 3 klasser.

Ah takk! Har ikke fulgt med siden sist, siden jeg har avsluttet alt som har med lp å gjøre.

[Teserere]

Det står jo at hundefører skal informere dommer om hvilket moment h'n velger før øvelsen starter?

Description: Before the competition starts, the judge will determine, which position

(stand/sit/down) the dog should to take on its way back to the handler. The same position

for all competitors

Jeg har bare lest klasse 3 siden det er relevant for meg, ser nå at det stemmer det dere sier for de lavere klassene.

Så forresten ikke noen endringer i elite? Det må det jo komme, siden resten av klassene har mange forandringer.

Klasse 3 erstatter dagens elite

[Gjest]

Description: Before the competition starts, the judge will determine, which position

(stand/sit/down) the dog should to take on its way back to the handler. The same position

for all competitors

Jeg har bare lest klasse 3 siden det er relevant for meg, ser nå at det stemmer det dere sier for de lavere klassene.

Klasse 3 erstatter dagens elite

Du skal jo ha valp, så de andre delene er også relevant for deg da!

[Teserere]

Du skal jo ha valp, så de andre delene er også relevant for deg da!

Jaja, ikke akkurat nå da Tør ikke satse på noenting før den er her hjemme, og med min flaks kan det være langt frem i tid

[SandyEyeCandy]

Jeg skjønner absolutt ikke en dritt av det der oppsettet, men hvis en skal dømme etter kommentarene deres, så blir det så mye teit og tull at det kanskje kommer til å passe Aiko og meg når hun blir gammel og sedat!

[Betty]

Jeg skjønner absolutt ikke en dritt av det der oppsettet, men hvis en skal dømme etter kommentarene deres, så blir det så mye teit og tull at det kanskje kommer til å passe Aiko og meg når hun blir gammel og sedat!

Det er litt lettere å lese det på den pdf-en Teserere har lagt ut nederst i innlegget.